senators who served with him on the foreign policy committee on the foreign affairs committee, hagel, kerry and brennan who has been with him four years. >> what happened with president lincoln at the beginning of his second term he no longer needed those rivals to shore them up. he brought them in the first place because he had last experience expej case. by the time he reached his second term he put people he felt comfortable with. some of them were gone. i'm not sure it's a problem. as long as they can still argue with him and debate with him and question his assumptions which is what you want from rivals inside an inner circle as long as they're independent. >> rose: let me turn to the first term. tell me how you address grade own on the first term. >> i think he really wrote, that is a legacy, that is a thing that really moved justice. lyndon johnson would say maybe that saw like he admitted the first civil rights law was really bad but he said the important thing was to pass it. once you pass it, it's easy to go back and fix it. and i think that if i look back on his first term, i thi